KURT VONNEGUT: THE LAST INTERVIEW
2011 Melville House Publishing
Kurt Vonnegut: The Art of Fiction 1977, The Paris Review and reprinted by arrangement with The Wylie Agency LLC.
There Must Be More to Love Than Death reprinted with permission from the August 2, 1980 issue of The Nation. For subscription information, call 1-800-333-8536. Portions of each weeks Nation magazine can be accessed at thenation.com
The Joe & Kurt Show 1992, Carole Mallory.
Originally appeared in Playboy magazine.
God Bless You, Mr. Vonnegut 2007, 2012, Project 13 Productions.
The Melancholia of Everything Completed reprinted by permission of by J.C. Gabel and Stop Smiling.
The Last Interview reprinted by permission of In These Times: inthesetimes.com
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CONTENTS
KURT VONNEGUT, THE ART OF FICTION
Interviewed by David Hayman, David Michaelis,
George Plimpton, Richard Rhodes
The Paris Review
Spring 1977
THERE MUST BE MORE TO LOVE THAN DEATH
Interview by Robert K. Musil
The Nation
August 1980
THE JOE & KURT SHOW
A Conversation with Kurt Vonnegut and Joseph Heller
With Carole Mallory
Playboy
May 1992
THE MELANCHOLIA OF EVERYTHING COMPLETED
Interview by J.C. Gabel
Stop Smiling
August 2006
GOD BLESS YOU, MR. VONNEGUT
Interview by J. Rentilly
U.S. Airways Magazine
June 2007
THE LAST INTERVIEW
Interview by Heather Augustyn
In These Times online
May 9, 2007
EDITORS NOTE
The last interview referred to in the title of this volume is in fact Kurt Vonneguts last published conversation, an interview conducted on February 28, 2007, by Heather Augustyn and published online May 9, 2007, by In These Times magazine, where Vonnegut himself often wrote. Also included here is J. Rentillys June 2007 U.S. Airways Magazine interview, which contains quotes from a conversation between Rentilly and Vonnegut that came after Augustyns interview. Rentillys interview draws on four conversations he had with Vonnegut between October 2000 and March 6, 2007, one month before Vonneguts passing at age 84.
KURT VONNEGUT,
THE ART OF FICTION
INTERVIEWED BY DAVID HAYMAN, DAVID MICHAELIS,
GEORGE PLIMPTON, RICHARD RHODES
FIRST PUBLISHED INTHE PARIS REVIEW,
NO. 69, SPRING 1977
This interview with Kurt Vonnegut was originally a composite of four interviews done with the author over the past decade. The composite has gone through an extensive working over by the subject himself, who looks upon his own spoken words on the page with considerable misgiving indeed, what follows can be considered an interview conducted with himself, by himself.
The introduction to the first of the incorporated interviews (done in West Barnstable, Massachusetts, when Vonnegut was forty-four) reads: He is a veteran and a family man, large-boned, loose-jointed, at ease. He camps in an armchair in a shaggy tweed jacket, Cambridge gray flannels, a blue Brooks Brothers shirt, slouched down, his hands stuffed into his pockets. He shells the interview with explosive coughs and sneezes, windages of an autumn cold and a lifetime of heavy cigarette smoking. His voice is a resonant baritone, Midwestern, wry in its inflections. From time to time he issues the open, alert smile of a man who has seen and reserved within himself almost everything: depression, war, the possibility of violent death, the inanities of corporate public relations, six children, an irregular income, long-delayed recognition.
The last of the interviews that made up the composite was conducted during the summer of 1976, years after the first. The description of him at this time reads: he moves with the low-keyed amiability of an old family dog. In general, his appearance is tousled: the long curly hair, mustache, and sympathetic smile suggest a man at once amused and saddened by the world around him. He has rented the Gerald Murphy house for the summer. He works in the little bedroom at the end of a hall where Murphy, artist, bon vivant, and friend to the artistic great, died in 1964. From his desk Vonnegut can look out onto the front lawn through a small window; behind him is a large, white canopy bed. On the desk next to the typewriter is a copy of Andy Warhols Interview, Clancy Sigals Zone of the Interior, and several discarded cigarette packs.
Vonnegut has chain-smoked Pall Malls since 1936 and during the course of the interview he smokes the better part of one pack. His voice is low and gravelly, and as he speaks, the incessant procedure of lighting the cigarettes and exhaling smoke is like punctuation in his conversation. Other distractions, such as the jangle of the telephone and the barking of a small, shaggy dog named Pumpkin, do not detract from Vonneguts good-natured disposition. Indeed, as Dan Wakefield once said of his fellow Shortridge High School alumnus, He laughed a lot and was kind to everyone.
INTERVIEWER
You are a veteran of the Second World War?
VONNEGUT
Yes. I want a military funeral when I diethe bugler, the flag on the casket, the ceremonial firing squad, the hallowed ground.
INTERVIEWER
Why?
VONNEGUT
It will be a way of achieving what Ive always wanted more than anythingsomething I could have had, if only Id managed to get myself killed in the war.
INTERVIEWER
Which is?
VONNEGUT
The unqualified approval of my community.
INTERVIEWER
You dont feel that you have that now?
VONNEGUT
My relatives say that they are glad Im rich, but that they simply cannot read me.
INTERVIEWER
You were an infantry battalion scout in the war?
VONNEGUT
Yes, but I took my basic training on the 240-millimeter howitzer.
INTERVIEWER
A rather large weapon.
VONNEGUT
The largest mobile fieldpiece in the army at that time. This weapon came in six pieces, each piece dragged wallowingly by a Caterpillar tractor. Whenever we were told to fire it, we had to build it first. We practically had to invent it. We lowered one piece on top of another, using cranes and jacks. The shell itself was about nine and a half inches in diameter and weighed three hundred pounds. We constructed a miniature railway which would allow us to deliver the shell from the ground to the breech, which was about eight feet above grade. The breechblock was like the door on the vault of a savings and loan association in Peru, Indiana, say.
INTERVIEWER
It must have been a thrill to fire such a weapon.
VONNEGUT
Not really. We would put the shell in there, and then we would throw in bags of very slow and patient explosives. They were damp dog biscuits, I think. We would close the breech, and then trip a hammer which hit a fulminate of mercury percussion cap, which spit fire at the damp dog biscuits. The main idea, I think, was to generate steam. After a while, we could hear these cooking sounds. It was a lot like cooking a turkey. In utter safety, I think, we could have opened the breechblock from time to time, and basted the shell. Eventually, though, the howitzer always got restless. And finally it would heave back on its recoil mechanism, and it would have to expectorate the shell. The shell would come floating out like the Goodyear blimp. If we had had a stepladder, we could have painted Fuck Hitler on the shell as it left the gun. Helicopters could have taken after it and shot it down.