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July 1, 1984 | Sunday Times (UK) -- Radio Interview | Bert Kleinman and Artie Mogull -- November 13, 1984 | Westwood One (US) -- Radio Interview | Bob Coburn -- June 17, 1985 | Rockline, KLOS-FM (Los Angeles) -- Bob DylanAfter All These Years in the Spotlight, the Elusive Star Is at the Crossroads Again | Mikal Gilmore -- October 13, 1985 | Los Angeles Herald-Examiner -- Ask Him Something, and a Sincere Dylan Will Tell You the Truth | Don McLeese -- January 26, 1986 | Chicago Sun-Times -- The Invisible Man | David Hepworth -- October 1986 | Q magazine (UK) -- Radio Interview | Elliot Mintz -- May 1991 | Westwood One (US) -- Interview | Paul Zollo -- November 1991 | SongTalk -- Dylan: Jokes, Laughter, and a Series of Dreams | Peter Wilmoth -- April 3, 1992 | The Age (Australia) -- A Midnight Chat with Dylan | John Dolen -- September 28, 1995 | SunSentinel (Fort Lauderdale, Florida) -- No Direction Home Outtakes -- 2000 (interview) | Broadcast Date Unknown | WBAI-FM (New York) -- Press Conference -- July 23, 2001 | Rome -- TV Interview | Ed Bradley -- December 5, 2004 | 60 Minutes, CBS (US) -- The Genius and Modern Times of Bob Dylan | Jonathan Lethem -- September 7, 2006 | Rolling Stone -- Bob Dylans Late-Era, Old-Style American Individualism | Douglas Brinkley -- May 14, 2009 | Rolling Stone -- Bob Dylan: The Uncut Interview | Robert Love -- February/March 2015 | AARP The Magazine -- Nobel Prize Banquet Speech | Bob Dylan (presented by Azita Raji) -- December 10, 2016 | Stockholm, Sweden -- About the Contributors -- About the Editor -- Credits -- Index -- Back Flip: About the Author -- Back Cover;Front Cover -- Front Flip -- Title Page -- Copyright -- Dedication -- Contents -- Preface | Jeff Burger -- Izzy Youngs Notebook | Izzy Young -- October 20, 1961March 14, 1962 | The Fiddler Now Upspoke (UK) -- Radio Interview | Cynthia Gooding -- Early 1962 | Folksingers Choice, WBAI-FM (New York) -- Conversation | Izzy Young, Pete Seeger, Sis Cunningham, and Gil Turner -- May 1962 (recording) | Unaired, WBAI-FM (New York) -- A Day with Bob Dylan | John Cocks -- November 20, 1964 | Kenyon Collegian (Ohio) -- Bob Dylan as Bob Dylan | Paul Jay Robbins -- March and September 1965 (interview) | September 10, 17, and 24, 1965 | Los Angeles Free Press -- Interview | Nora Ephron and Susan Edmiston -- August 1965 (interview) | Publication Unknown -- Playboy Interview: Bob Dylan | Nat Hentoff -- Fall 1965 (interview) | March 1966 | Playboy -- Press Conference -- December 3, 1965 | KQED-TV (San Francisco) -- Press Conference -- December 16, 1965 | Los Angeles -- Radio Conversation | Bob Fass -- January 26, 1966 | Radio Unnameable, WBAI-FM (New York) -- Radio Interview | Klas Burling -- May 1, 1966 | Radio 3 (Sweden) -- Conversations with Bob Dylan | John Cohen and Happy Traum -- October/November 1968 | Sing Out! -- Press Conference -- August 27, 1969 | Isle of Wight, England -- Radio Interview | Mary Travers -- April 20, 1975 | Mary Travers and Friend, KNX-FM (Los Angeles) -- Bob Dylan: ... A Sailing Ship to the Moon | Neil Hickey -- August 1976 (interview) | March 4, 2015 | Adventures in the Scribblers Trade -- An Interview with Dylan | Randy Anderson -- February 17, 1978 | Minnesota Daily -- Radio Interview | Paul Vincent -- November 19, 1980 | KMEL-FM (San Francisco) -- Radio Interview | Paul Gambaccini -- June 20, 1981 | Rock On, BBC Radio 1 (UK) -- Jesus, Whos Got Time to Keep Up with the Times? | Mick Brown

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Copyright 2018 by Jeff Burger

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Published by Chicago Review Press Incorporated
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Chicago, Illinois 60610

ISBN 978-0-912777-44-3

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A list of credits and copyright notices for the individual pieces in this collection can be found on pages 52729.

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For Andre and Myriam,
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PREFACE

Google Bob Dylan rarely gives interviews and youll discover dozens of articles that use that or a similar phraseoften in the introduction to a Dylan Q&A. Sometimes, as in a 1969 conversation with Rolling Stone editor Jann Wenner, it is Dylan himself who proclaims, I dont give interviews.

This has never been even close to the truth. Granted, there have been periods of several years when he has met with journalists rarely or not at all. He has also complained about talking to the media, loudly and frequently, saying, for example, that if you give one magazine an interview, then the other magazine wants an interview... so pretty soon youre in the interview business. He has said that his words get twisted by journalists, and that performers feel that... a lot of times that their points are not taken the right way or they feel imposed upon to answer questions that have really little to do with why they fill halls or sell records.

But his complaints havent stopped him from talking. Dylan has given numerous press conferences; spoken at length with countless large and small print publications and with broadcast media around the world; and even answered listeners questions on call-in radio shows. There is far more Q&A material than any one book could accommodate.

Besides claiming that Dylan almost never grants interviews, journalists frequently say that when he does talk to them, he doesnt reveal much. His responses are often vague, mystical, or testy, wrote Jon Bream in the Minneapolis StarTribune in 2013. He has never spoken extensively about his early career, proclaimed the BBC in 2003. In no interview, from what I can tell, did he reveal anything of substance about his nonpublic life, wrote Andrew Ferguson in Londons Weekly Standard magazine in 2016.

After reading this bookwhich includes dozens of Dylans most interesting interviews plus highlights from more than eighty other Q&As, encounters, and speechesyoull understand why journalists make such comments. Like the Beatles, who offered silly answers to silly queries about their hairstyles and similarly trivial matters early in their careers, Dylan can be as evasive and abstruse as he is witty. Sometimesespecially in interviews that contain preposterous questionshe can be cranky and sarcastic. But when hes in the right mood, likes the interviewer, and hears intelligent questions, he often offers candid, revealing commentary about his groundbreaking music and creative process, and occasionally even about marriage, parenting, and other personal subjects.

Youll find such interviews in the pages that follow, along with ones in which Dylans true feelings remain elusive, and I think youll agree that while the former kind shed the most light, the latter can be just as colorful and entertaining. Indeed, Dylan is one of a small number of popular music artists who are nearly always as fascinating in conversation as they are on record.

His Q&As are particularly valuable because they offer one of the few non-musical glimpses we have into the mind of one of the most important performers and songwriters of the last hundred years. He rarely talks to audiences in concert, and he has never produced a full and proper autobiography. There is, of course, the terrific Chronicles, Volume One. But that memoir isnt nearly as confessional or wide-ranging as, say, Bruce Springsteens; and while Chronicles was supposed to be a three-book project, we have yet to see a sequel to volume one, which appeared well over a decade ago. Dylan was reportedly working on volume two as far back as 2008, so it could appear at any moment, maybe even before this book hits the stores. But even if it does, I suspect well find in these interviews many otherwise unavailable clues to the man behind the music.

You have to read those clues carefully, though. Dylan said in 1986 that reporters sometimes take quotations and turn things around and make you seem like a different kind of person... So you felt like youd been suckered or something. But sometimes the reader gets suckered, too. A writer named Eduardo Bueno filed a Dylan tour feature in 1991 and found later that an editor had tried to pass it off as an interview, using some quotes from earlier articles and some that the singer had never even uttered. Then there was the case of New Yorker writer Jonah Lehrer, who resigned from that magazine in 2012 after admitting that hed invented the Dylan quotes that appear in his book Imagine: How Creativity Works. (No, Jonah, thats not how it works.)

Dylan himself often speaks honestly to the press, but he, too, has at times tried to fool the public. The press, I figured, you lied to it, he wrote in Chronicles, and some of the lies were big ones. The transcript of an ostensible 1965 press conference that appeared in the Village Voice was actually written by Dylan and the Voices J. R. Goddard. Dylan also told many tall tales about his teen years in early interviews. And when he didnt like what a Playboy editor did to the transcript of his 1965 conversation with Nat Hentoff, he rejected Hentoffs suggestion that he simply tell the magazine to cancel its publication of the interview. I got a better idea, Dylan reportedly said. Im gonna make one up. And with some help from Hentoff, he did.


The table of contents lists publication or broadcast dates, when available, but the full-length interviews here are arranged in the order that they were conducted. (Ive indicated interview dates when no publication or broadcast date is available and in cases where a piece would appear to be out of sequence based on the publication or broadcast date.) Conversations that did not originally appear in print have been styled according to guidelines in The Chicago Manual of Style. I listened to audio recordings whenever possible, and in doing so, found many previous transcriptions to be incomplete and error-prone. I have done some minor editing to improve readabilityfor example, by deleting verbal ticks like you know as well as aborted, incoherent, and redundant phrases and sentences.

As for material that originated in print media, I have in most cases obtained copies of the publications and am presenting these features exactly as they first appeared. Whether album and song titles are italicized, placed in quotes, or simply written with initial caps, for example, depends on how they are displayed in the original article; even when punctuation or styling is at odds with all the rules I know, Ive followed The Chicago Manual of Styles guidelines about not altering previously published material. I have, however, made rare exceptions to correct obvious and egregious typos and spelling and punctuation mistakes and have also used bracketed editors notes to flag misstatements and explain comments that seem unclear.

There isnt much repetition in these interviews. Dylan is highly changeable, so the content and tone of conversations often differs dramatically, even when only weeks or months separate them. Moreover, I have attempted to select interviews that mostly cover territory not explored elsewhere in the same way or at all.

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