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A collection of John P. Meadowss interviews originally given to refute inaccuracies in the 1930 movie Billy the Kid. Also includes Meadowss memories of the Southwests frontier days and the characters he knew.

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PAT GARRETT and BILLY THE KID as I Knew Them - photo 1
PAT GARRETT and BILLY THE KID as I Knew Them John P Meadows as a young - photo 2
PAT GARRETT
and
BILLY THE KID
as I Knew Them
John P Meadows as a young man from Charles A Siringos The Song Companion of - photo 3
John P Meadows as a young man from Charles A Siringos The Song Companion of - photo 4
John P. Meadows as a young man, from Charles A. Siringos The Song Companion of a Lone Star Cowboy; Old Favorite Cow-Camp Songs (Norwood, Pa.: Norwood Editions, 1975 [1919]).
Picture 5
PAT GARRETT
and
BILLY THE KID
as I Knew Them
Reminiscences of John P. Meadows
Picture 6
Edited by John P. Wilson
University of New Mexico Press
Albuquerque
2004 by the University of New Mexico Press
All rights reserved. Published 2004
Printed in the United States of America
10 09 08 07 06 05 04 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
ISBN for this digital edition: 978-0-8263-3327-8
The Library of Congress has cataloged the printed edition as follows:
Meadows, John P., 18541936.
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid as I knew them :
reminiscences of John P. Meadows / edited by John P. Wilson.
p. cm.
Includes bibliographical references and index.
ISBN 0-8263-3325-7 (cloth : alk. paper)
1. Billy, the KidFriends and associates.
2. Garrett, Pat F. (Pat Floyd), 18501908Friends and associates.
3. Meadows, John P., 18541936.
4. Frontier and pioneer lifeSouthwest, New.
5. OutlawsSouthwest, NewBiography.
6. SheriffsSouthwest, NewBiography.
7. Southwest, NewHistory1848
I. Wilson, John P. (John Philip), 1935 II. Title.
F786.M493 2004
363.2'092dc22
2004011802
Design and composition by Maya Allen-Gallegos
I am not going to leave the country, and I am not
going to reform, neither am I going to be taken
alive again.
Billy the Kid to John P. Meadows,
on the Peasco, c. May 12, 1881
(quoted in
Roswell Daily Record,
February 16, 1931, page 6).
Picture 7
Contents
Picture 8
List of Illustrations
Figures
John P. Meadows as a young man (undated)
.
.
Maps
Map 1. Arizona, New Mexico, and West Texas, with place names in John Meadowss reminiscences
Map 2. Southern New Mexico, with places mentioned in John Meadowss reminiscences
Map 1 Arizona New Mexico and West Texas with place names in John Meadowss - photo 9
Map 1 Arizona New Mexico and West Texas with place names in John Meadowss - photo 10
Map 1. Arizona, New Mexico, and West Texas, with place names in John Meadowss reminiscences. Map courtesy of the author.
Map 2 Southern New Mexico with places mentioned in John Meadowss - photo 11
Map 2 Southern New Mexico with places mentioned in John Meadowss - photo 12
Map 2. Southern New Mexico, with places mentioned in John Meadowss reminiscences. Map courtesy of the author.
Place Names
1. Stinking Springs
2. C-Dot/Bar W Ranch
3. Carrizozo
4. Nogal Creek
5. Lincoln
6. Rio Bonito
7. Blackwater Creek
8. VV Ranch
9. Ruidoso (Dowlins)
10. Rio Ruidoso
11. Mescalero
12. Blazers Mill
13. Bent
14. Tularosa Creek
15. Hembrillo Canyon
16. Rodey (Colorado)
17. Cookes Peak
18. Masons Ranch
19. Doa Ana
20. Organ
21. Shedds (Cox) Ranch
22. Gold Camp
23. Chalk Hill
24. Point of Sands
25. La Luz
26. Alamogordo
27. Dog Canyon
28. Hilton (Circle Cross) Ranch
29. Sacramento River
30. Weed
31. Agua Chiquita
32. Bluewater
33. Elk
34. Bryant (Meadows) Ranch
35. Hope
36. Gilbert Ranch
37. Seven Rivers
38. Rocky Arroyo
39. Dark Canyon
40. Black River
41. Wildy Well
42. Hillsboro
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Acknowledgments
In 198586 Thomas Caperton and the New Mexico State Monuments division supported the research for my history of Lincoln, New Mexico, published in 1987. While engaged in this I came across John P. Meadowss reminiscences of Billy the Kid As I Knew Him, a typed manuscript in the Philip J. Rasch files at Lincoln State Monument. I soon learned that some of Meadowss stories had appeared in the Alamogordo News in 1935 and 1936.
In 1996 I compiled and partially annotated Meadowss recollections. Apart from what he said in his own stories, his personal history was virtually unknown. He had not attracted attention from historians, and persons who remembered him had known him only casually or when they were children, more than sixty years earlier. The latter half of his life, from c. 1900 to 1936, had to be worked out from primary documents.
Dr. David Townsend of Alamogordo, New Mexico, introduced me to Mr. George Abbott, who as Otero County Treasurer in the 1930s recalled John Meadows as a nice-looking man who dressed well in Western style. Mrs. Norma Cinert and Lucille Marr had known him when they were children in Tularosa, New Mexico. They told me about his purchase of a whole block in downtown Tularosa (the Meadows Block), reportedly with money obtained from his second wife, a woman named Encarnacin Gutirrez, and that he lost this property in the 1930s, probably through a foreclosure. They recalled his serving as mayor of Tularosa, his reputation as a storyteller, and another wife in the 1920s.
My wife, Cheryl, found a letter by Meadows in an 1897 newspaper among New Mexico State University Librarys Special Collections. This letter is included here as told me the names of John Meadowss parents and first wife, and some personal details such as Charlie Siringos dedication of The Song Companion of a Lone Star Cowboy to him. She had the information at hand because another researcher, name unknown or misplaced, had been inquiring about Meadowss family history. Mrs. Anderson regrettably passed away in February 2001.
In 1996 Mr. Abbott showed me how to use the books in the county clerks office at the Otero County Courthouse. I built upon this knowledge during subsequent visits and also was allowed to examine the bound volumes of early Tularosa and Alamogordo newspapers on file there. I very much appreciate the assistance of both Mr. Abbott and the staff in the county clerks office. Later I drove to Tularosa, where Village Clerk Margaret Gonzales allowed me to look through the Minute Book (#2) of the board of trustees, April 6, 1926, to December 2, 1936, and make notes. Meadows served as mayor of Tularosa from May 28, 1926, until May 3, 1928.
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