Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev - Talks On Upanishad: An Insight On Atma Pooja Upanishad

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Sdhguru Jgg Vsudev

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The Trdtn f the Unshds nd the Serets f Medttn

UM TSY NSHHNTNM DHYNM

UM MEDTTN S THE NSTNT NTEMLTN F THT.

THERE re sme nts t nder ver befre we ste nt the unknwn. The unknwn s the messge f the Unshds. The bs, the mst fundtnl, lwys remns unknwn; tht whh we knw s lwys suerfl. S sme nts must be understd befre we n g dee nt the relm f the unknwn. These three wrds the knwn, the unknwn, nd the unknwble must be understd frst, beuse the Unshds re nerned wth the unknwn nly s begnnng. They end nt the unknwble. The knwn relm bemes sene, the unknwn s hlshy nd the unknwble belngs t relgn.

hlshy s the lnk between the knwn nd the unknwn, between sene nd relgn. hlshy s ttlly nerned wth the unknwn. The mment smethng bemes knwn, t bemes rt f sene; t remns n mre rt f hlshy. S the mre sene grws, the mre hlshy s ushed hed. The feld tht bemes knwn bemes sene, nd hlshy s the lnk between sene nd relgn. S s sene rgresses hlshy hs t be ushed hed, beuse t n nly be nerned wth the unknwn. But the mre hlshy reeds hed, the mre relgn s ushed hed, beuse relgn s bslly nerned wth the unknwble.

The Unshds begn wth the unknwn; they end wth the unknwble. Thts hw msunderstndng rses. rfessr Rnde hs wrtten very dee bk n the hlshy f the Unshds, but t remns nly begnnng. t nnt enetrte the deeer vlleys f the Unshd mystery beuse t remns hlshl. The Unshds begn wth hlshy, but tht s nly begnnng. They end n relgn, n the unknwble. nd when sy unknwble, men tht whh nnt be knwn.

Whtsever the effrt my be, hwsever we my try, the mment we knw smethng t bemes rt f sene; the mment we feel smethng s unknwn t s rt f hlshy the mment we enunter the unknwble, nly then s t relgn. When sy the unknwble, men tht whh nnt be knwn but whh n be enuntered; t n be felt, t n even be lved. Yu n be fe t fe wth t. t n be enuntered, but stll t remns unknwble. nly ths muh s felt tht nw we re dee n mystery whh nnt be slved. S befre we enter ths mystery, sme nts hve t be understd; therwse there wll be n entrne.

ne s: hw t lsten, beuse there re dfferent dmensns f lstenng. Yu n lsten wth yur ntellet, wth yur resn. Mm? Tht s ne wy f lstenng t thng: the mst mmn, the mst rdnry nd the mst shllw beuse wth resn yu re lwys ether n defense r n ttk. Wth resn yu re lwys fghtng, s whenever smene tres t understnd smethng thrugh resn he s fghtng wth the thng. t the mst, very rudmentry understndng s ssble, just n quntne s ssble. The deeer menng s bund t be mssed beuse the deeer menng requres very symthet lstenng.

Resn n never lsten wth symthy. t lstens wth very rgumenttve bkgrund. t n never lsten wth lve; tht s mssble. S lstenng wth resn s gd f yu re tryng t understnd mthemts, f yu re tryng t understnd lg, f yu re tryng t understnd ny system whh s ttlly rtnl.

f yu lsten t etry wth resn, then yu wll be blnd. t s s f ne s tryng t see wth nes ers r her wth nes eyes. Yu nnt understnd etry thrugh resn. S there s deeer understndng, the send tye f understndng, whh s nt thrugh resn but thrugh lve, thrugh feelng, thrugh emtn, thrugh hert.

Resn s lwys n nflt; resn wll nt llw nythng t ss n esly. Resn must be defeted; nly then n smethng enetrte. t s n rmur rund the mnd; t s defense methd, defense mesure. t s lert every mment tht nthng shuld ss wthut t beng wre, nd tht nthng shuld be llwed unless resn s defeted. nd even when resn s defeted the thng s nt gng t yur hert, beuse n defet yu nnt feel symthet.

The send dmensn f lstenng s thrugh hert, thrugh feelng. Smene s lstenng t mus; then n nlyss s needed. f urse, f yu re rt, then yu wll nt be ble t understnd mus. Yu my be ble t understnd the mthemts, the meter, the lnguge, everythng but mus but never mus tself; beuse mus nnt be nlyzed. t s whle. t s ttlty. f yu wt fr sngle send t nlyze t, yu hve mssed muh. t s flwng ttlty. f urse, er mus n be nlyzed, but never rel mus when t s there, lyng. S yu nnt stnd lf, yu nnt be n bserver. Yu hve t be rtnt. f yu rtte, nly then d yu understnd.

S wth feelng, the wy f understndng s thrugh rttn. Yu nnt be n bserver, yu nnt stnd utsde. Yu nnt mke mus n bjet. Yu hve t flw wth t, yu hve t be deely n lve wth t. There wll be mments when yu wll nt be nd nly mus wll be there. Thse wll be the eks; thse mments wll be the mments f mus. Then smethng enetrtes t yur deeer beng. Ths s deeer wy f lstenng, but t s stll nt the deeest.

The frst wy s thrugh resn rtnl; the send s thrugh feelng emtnl; nd the thrd s thrugh beng estentl. When yu lsten thrugh yur resn, yu re lstenng thrugh ne rt f yur beng. gn, when yu lsten thrugh yur feelng, yu re lstenng thrugh ne rt f yur beng. The thrd, the deeest, the mst uthent dmensn f lstenng, s thrugh yur ttlty Bdy, mnd, srt s whle, s n neness. f yu understnd ths thrd wy f lstenng, nly then wll yu be ble t enetrte the mystery f the Unshd.

The trdtnl term fr ths thrd lstenng s fth. S we n dvde: thrugh resn the methd s dubt; thrugh feelng the methd s lve, symthy; thrugh beng the methd s fth, trust beuse f we re gng nt the unknwn, hw n yu dubt? Yu n dubt the knwn, but tht whh s nt knwn t ll hw n yu dubt t?

Dubt bemes vld f t s nerned wth the knwn. Wth the unknwn, dubt s just mssble. Hw n yu lve the unknwn? Yu n lve the knwn. Yu nnt lve the unknwn; yu nnt rete reltnsh wth the unknwn. Reltnsh s mssble. Yu nnt relte wth t. Yu n dsslve nt t tht s nther thng but yu nnt relte wth t. Yu n surrender t the unknwn, but yu nnt relte t t. nd surrender s nt reltnsh. t s nt reltnsh t ll! t s just dsslvng the dulty.

S wth resn the dulty remns: yu re n nflt wth the ther. Wth lve the dulty remns: yu re n symthy wth the ther. But wth beng the dulty dsslves: yu re nether n nflt nr n lve; yu re nt relted t ll. Ths thrd s knwn trdtnlly s fth, trust Shrddh. s fr s the unknwn s nerned, fth s the key.

f smene sys, Hw n beleve then he msunderstnds, then he msses the very nt. Fth s nt belef. Belef s, gn, rtnl thng. Yu n beleve; yu n dsbeleve. Yu n beleve beuse yu hve rguments fr belevng; yu n dsbeleve beuse yu hve rguments fr dsbelevng. Belef s never deeer thn resn. S thests, thests, belevers, nnbelevers, they ll belng t the mst shllw relm. Fth s nt belef, beuse fr the unknwn there s n resn fr r gnst. Yu n nether beleve nr dsbeleve.