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Books Authored
The Theatre of Mixed Means (1968)
Master Minds (1969)
The End of Intelligent Writing (1974)
I Articulations/Short Fictions (1974)
Numbers: Poems & Stories (1975)
Openings & Closings (1975)
Portraits from Memory (1975)
The End Appendix/The End Essentials (1979)
Twenties in the Sixties (1979)
Metamorphosis in the Arts (1980)
More Short Fictions (1980)
Autobiographies (1981)
The Old Poetries and the New (1981)
American Imaginations (1983)
The Grants-Fix (1987)
The Old Fictions and the New (1987)
On Innovative Music(ian)s (1989)
The New Poetries and Some Olds (1991)
Politics in the African-American Novel (1991)
On Innovative Art(ist)s (1992)
A Dictionary of the Avant-Gardes (1993, 1999)
Wordworks: Poems New & Selected (1993)
Minimal Fictions (1994)
On Innovative Performance(s) (1994)
An ABC of Contemporary Reading (199)
Crimes of Culture (1995)
Fillmore East: Recollections of Rock Theater (1995)
One Million Words of Booknotes, 19591993 (1995)
Radio Writings (1995)
John Cage Ex(plain)ed (1996)
Thirty Years of Critical Engagements with John Cage (1996)
3-Element Stories (1998)
Vocal Shorts: Collected Performance Texts (1998)
Political Essays (1999)
3 Canadian Geniuses (2001)
More Wordworks (2002)
Thirty-Five Years of Visible Writing (2002)
Records and Compact Discs
Invocations (1981)
Seductions (1981)
Relationships (1983)
New York City (1984)
A Special Time (1985)
Americas Game (1988)
The Gospels Abridged (1990)
Kaddish (1990)
Videotapes
Three Prose Pieces (1975)
Video Writing (1987)
Invocations (1988)
The Gospels Abridged (1988)
Kinetic Writing (1989)
Kaddish (1990)
Americas Game (2001)
Retrospective Exhibitions
Wordsand (1978)
Installations
My life in/of words
Books Edited
On Contemporary Literature (1964, 1969)
Twelve from the Sixties (1967)
The Young American Writers (1967)
Beyond Left & Right: Radical Thought for Our Times (1968)
Possibilities of Poetry (1970)
Moholy-Nagy (1970, 1991)
John Cage (1970, 1991)
Futures Fictions (1971)
Seeing through Shuck (1972)
In Youth (1972)
Breakthrough Fictioneers (1973)
Essaying Essays (1975)
Younger Critics in North America (1976)
Esthetics Contemporary (1978, 1989)
Text-Sound Texts (1980)
The Yale Gertrude Stein (1980)
American Writing Today (1981, 1991)
The Avant-Garde Tradition in Literature (1982)
Gertrude Stein Advanced (1989)
Merce Cunningham (1992)
John Cage: Writer (1993)
Writings About John Cage (1993)
Nicolas Slonimsky: The First One Hundred Years (1994)
A Portable Bakers Biographical Dictionary of Musicians (1995)
A B.B. King Companion (1997)
Writings on Glass (1997, 1999)
A Frank Zappa Companion (1997)
AnOther E.E.Cummings (1998)
The Great American Person of Avant-Garde Letters: A Gertrude Stein Reader (2002)
Virgil Thomson: A Reader (2002)
Books Coauthored and Edited
The New American Arts (1965)
Performance Scripts
Epiphanies (1980)
Seductions (1986)
Lovings (1991)
1001 Contemporary Ballets (2001)
Films Coproduced and Directed
Constructivist Fictions (1978)
Ein Verlorenes Berlin (1983)
A Berlin Lost (1985)
Berlin Perdu (1986)
El Berlin Perdido (1987)
Berlin Sche-Einena Jother (1988)
Epiphanies (19811993)
Holograms
On Holography (1978)
Antitheses (1985)
Hidden Meanings (1989)
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Copyright 1987 and 2003 by Richard Kostelanetz, John Cage, and The John Cage Trust
Design and typography: Jack Donner
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ISBN 0-203-42703-3 Master e-book ISBN
ISBN 0-203-43899-X (Adobe eReader Format)
ISBN 0-415-93791-4 (hb)
ISBN 0-415-93792-2 (pb)
Dedicated by RK & JC
To Klaus Schning
Fanny & Nadja
Few artists of his eminence or his conversational brilliance were as generous with interviews as John Cage, who honored requests from undergraduate newspapers with attention and grace equal to those from slick magazines; and these interviews have appeared all over the world. Since they were individually incomplete, while most had elements lacking in others, it seemed appropriate to select exemplary passages, and from these selections to compose a sort of extended ur-interview that Cage ideally might have given. I decided to gather his choicest comments under several rubrics, and then order those comments as though they were parts of a continuous conversation similar to, say, Pierre Cabannes Entretiens avec Marcel Duchamp (1967). While these rubrics may violate the style and content of Cages thinking, they nonetheless serve the convenient function of organizing what he did not organize himself. Indeed, such structuring is perhaps a principal difference between talk and print. Though remarks as such may not be literature, conversation as provocative and elegant as Cages, so full of important ideas, often attains the quality we call classic. Admittedly, someone else could have chosen different nuggets from the same verbal mine, assembling them in wholly different ways. (And if they did, that result would be a book Id like to read.) Even though I have been identified as this books editor (sometimes by academics who should have known better), I consider myself its Composer, for Cagean reasons expressed in the third epigraph to this book, and thus its Author.
Since we were making a new book, it was decided not to draw from interviews in previous books wholly devoted to Cages work: his own books, which are now over a dozen; my own documentary monograph, John Cage (New York: Praeger, 1970; London: Allen Lane, 1971; New York: Da Capo, 1991), which also appeared in German (Kln: Dumont, 1973) and Spanish (Barcelona: Anagrama, 1974); Daniel Charles
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