In June, 2005, Creation Ministries InternationalAustralia accepted an invitation for a written mini-debate with the Australian Skeptics on the Sydney Morning Herald (SMH) weblog of Margo Kingston (a well-known left-wing Australian journalist). The topic was Did the universe and life evolve, or was it specially created in six days?.
This was an exciting opportunity to get the message out to many thousands of secular folk. To see feedback to our website from this debate, visit our feedback page posted that same year.
Final essay of rebuttal, summary, etc. (June 19, 2005)
All arguments were prepared unseen by the opposing side.
The debate generated unprecedented interest; normally a few dozen comments are posted on this popular secular media site in response to issues and articles, but hundreds and hundreds of people have posted reactions to this exchange.
This debate was originally published online, but is no longer available on the original page.
Then known as A nswers in Genesis (Australia).
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Those Putting the Case for Creation
Creation Ministries International (CMI) is a non-denominational ministry which seeks to support the Christian church in upholding biblical authority, especially in the field of origins/Genesis. The CMI scientific team for the debate consisted of the following:
Dr Don Batten has a Ph.D. in Plant Physiology from the University of Sydney and has worked as a research scientist for 20 years. He has published peer-reviewed scientific papers in the secular literature, as well as in technical creationist journals. Don co-wrote and edited the best-selling The Answers Book . He currently works full-time for Creation Ministries International , in Brisbane, Australia, as a speaker, writer and consultant scientist.
Dr Jonathan Sarfati has a Ph.D. in Physical Chemistry from Victoria University of Wellington (New Zealand), and has published papers in secular science journals on high-temperature superconductors and selenium-containing ring and cage-shaped molecules. One of his books, Refuting Evolution , has over 450,000 in print. A former New Zealand national chess champion, he currently works full-time for Creation Ministries International in Brisbane, Australia, as a speaker, writer and consultant scientist.
Dr Tasman Walker has a B.Sc. (Hons.) majoring in Earth Science, a B.Eng. (Hons) and a Ph.D. in Engineering from the University of Queensland. He has an extensive background in planning, design and operation of power stations, as well as geological assessments of coalmines for new fuel supplies and operational monitoring. He currently works full-time for Creation Ministries International in Brisbane, Australia, as a speaker, writer and consultant geologist.
Dr Carl Wieland has degrees in Medicine and Surgery from Adelaide University. In 1978 he founded Creation magazine, which now has subscribers in over 140 countries. He has authored and co-authored many articles in creationist publications, and several books. A former medical practitioner, he has since 1987 worked fulltime for the ministry now known as Creation Ministries International in Brisbane, Australia, of which he is currently Managing Director.
Those Putting the Case for Evolution
The Australian Skeptics is a group that investigates the paranormal and pseudo-science from a responsible scientific viewpoint. Many scientists are members or friends of the Skeptics, three of whom have shown particular enthusiasm to take part in this debate.
Dr Paul Willis is from ABC television. Dr Willis ABC website biography states that he got into science as a kid and has never grown out of it. He found his first fossil when he was a six-year-old pom and has been hooked on Palaeontology ever since. Moving to Australia at the age of nine, Paul went on to study Geology and Zoology at Sydney University before completing a Ph.D. at the University of New South Wales studying fossil crocodiles. Paul has been with the ABC since 1997 as a cross media science broadcaster, regularly appearing on radio, TV and online.
Dr Alex Ritchie was born in Scotland and studied Geology at Edinburgh University (1955-59), gaining his B.Sc. (Hons) in Geology. He also carried out research on early fossil fishes, for which he was awarded a Ph.D. in 1963. He lectured in Geology at Edinburgh University (1960-63) and Sheffield University (1963-67) before joining the Australian Museum in 1968 as its Curator of Fossils. Dr Ritchie was the Palaeontologist at the Australian Museum from 1968 until he retired in late 1995. On his retirement the Australian Museum Trust awarded him a Research Fellowship, an honorary position enabling him to continue active palaeontological research based at the Australian Museum, with full access to its facilities and resources.
Dr Ken Smith is from the University of Queensland: I am an Honorary Research Consultant in the Department of Mathematics, The University of Queensland. Since retiring from full-time lecturing in January 1997 I have been working, also in an honorary capacity, in the Chaplaincy Services at The University of Queensland.
Peter Bowditch writes: My job is to collate and edit the comments of these and other scientists. I am not a working scientist myself, (I am a computer consultant and my academic background is in psychology and epistemology). In my spare time I am Vice President of Australian Skeptics and I run a web site at ratbags.com which addresses the problem of uncritical thinking.
Opening Essay by Creation Ministries International
Schools, universities, and the media assert that all life is the result of billions of years of evolutioni.e., no Creator was involved or necessary. Creationists who take Genesis as Jesus Christ did, and other science-based degrees from highly-regarded universities. Their views on the origin of life, age of the earth, etc., are usually dismissively (and often emotively) ridiculed without careful consideration. So we appreciate this opportunity to at least present a brief case.